Curse

Swift Thief · Jun 21, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

How is using trade chat worse than using local chat? You make no sense.

arcanemacabre · Jun 21, 2007, 09:41 PM // 21:41

I wholeheartedly believe in trade improvements, I think anyone who has seen my posts know that by now. BUT, and this is big, I have actually been able to sell better in the last week than I ever have. I have always turned off local and turned on trade whenever I want to buy or sell. That's just how I've always done it, and since people have been posting less in local, the ones who actually want to buy things are actually checking trade more often. This banning idea is actually working out for the better, IMO. The honest (non-local-spammer) traders are making out better.

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Think we need a buying and selling tab for each instead of just trade if that hasn't been mentioned already.

Personally I hope more people move onto using the party search window. Whenever I zone into Kamadan, LA, etc.. I always take a quick peek at that window to see if anyone is selling anything I need. Best part being that it shows what is being sold in every district. Scroll at my leisure to see what is there, it's a great addition and hopefully with the enforcement on spam more people will see how useful that window is.

I always use the party search, even when there are no other messages there. I use both party search and trade channel, and like I said, I've been making out better than before. I agree on different colors for buy or sell: maybe that same filter that moves WTB and WTS to the trade, can also color the text for each differently in the trade channel. Maybe even add a different color for WTT, too. All very cool ideas.

Masseur · Jun 21, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

The suspensions are a beginning. Limiting the ability to repeat the same thing multiple times in 1 second is the other that needs to be fixed. You don't really need the ability to repeat the same thing on 2 sentences back to back in 1 second. They should limit how much you can repeat in a number of seconds/minutes or whatever and then the scrolling won't happen nearly as much and will be easier to read.

Patrick Smit · Jun 21, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by MrFuzzles

... trade channel is a good thing, even if it makes the trade channel move too fast. That is a separate problem that they'll have to deal with. Allowing people to trade in local channel is hardly a 'fix'.

WTS are only going to fast due spammers, before i kept track of both channels, and now the trade goes still as fast. Cutting on spam would reduce speed by a factor 2.

JGaff · Jun 21, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Meh, I've always used Trade Channel with a well thought out message (with correct grammar to boot) and I have made plenty of money. Just because you had one bad day selling doesn't mean you need to freak out. When you arrive at Willy Loman-esque levels of luck, tehn you might want to start complaining.

(Not too obscure/old a reference I hope)

Omega X · Jun 21, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

ITs only bad for sales NOW because this is a habit shifting change that everyone has to get used to. When it sets in that you HAVE to use the Trade channel or party window for buying/selling only then will things return back to normal.

aaje vhanli · Jun 21, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

I say just give it time. Many people are slower to discover aspects of the UI but when word gets around that people should use Trade Channel or Party Search to Buy, the buyers will come.

@ JGaff classic reference.

L|S >+>+G+<+< · Jun 21, 2007, 11:10 PM // 23:10

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

I disagree completely. It's mostly already been said, but spamming the local chat isn't going to make me, or anyone else want to buy the items. It only forced me to hide all of those windows, so that I didn't have to listen to it.

If you want to sell something you can say it once every so often in the trade window. Spamming it doesn't help anyone, if nobody wants it the first time, saying it seven times in a row wont change their mind.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

And tbh, all the local chat trade spam has also made me solo a lot of the game with hench or heros.

1. You can't see clearly what players are up for a quest or a mission.
2. If I want to buy something I will look at trade chat.

You people who used local chat for trade spamming really ruined the whole *team up with players to complete quests/missions* for me.

Senatoru · Jun 21, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

FIRST : SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH.
Anet force 100.000 ppl to sell in Trade channel.This night on Local Channel in Kamadan was 5 ppl who make joke about the sellers. GG ANET. Gail...you try ever to sell or buy something in Trade channel? After 5 min the eyes hurt because the lines are move too fast.
Why don`t grow up value of items? After 80 lockcheast open it i have some nice stuffs [all q9] .Must to spend alot of time to sell my weapons .With a right Value i can sell to merchant and go to play the game .
I think it necessary Anet to do something to help traders.Many ppl are complain about this....Why are you just stay and watch doing nothing?

BTW...5000 chest openit....not just 1 weapon req 8 15^50....not to talkabout req 7 [in 2 years].

I hope all who posted messege here to get an answear from developers.

Gawa · Jun 22, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by WildmouseX

people who are interested in buying stuff do pay attention to the trade channel.

That is the truth in a nutshell.

I rarely want to buy or sell. (have only done so twice since starting GW) I leave trade turned off. When i do want to buy or sell...a simple wee click of the mouse button turns Trade on and all the sellers have my full attention

It was incredible...LA1 and only 1 person used local chat to try and sell. Within seconds 3 or 4 others were advising them not to do that and to use trade.
The guy kept it up and the others started saying that no one should buy from him if he wasnt going to use trade. And no one did. And he left.

Yes there still are some people who spam in trade chat. That doesnt help any traders, and i reckon that should be cracked down on to, if only for the sake of all the decent traders who dont spam.

Angelica · Jun 22, 2007, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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Originally Posted by flubber

This is a joke, right?

spammers want the right to -spam-?

if people ain't buying...it's because they don't want the junk you have,
not because you can't spam Local with...WTS...WTS...WTS..WTS..WTS..WTS.

I agree completely with you!

It's so nice to finally be able to read what people say in the normal chat, without all the rubbish of WTS/WTB/WTT... etc. etc.!

If I wish to buy/sell something I'll be looking in the trade chat or the "P" window!

Abarra · Jun 22, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59

I think some of you are missing the point, spammers are not asking for the right to spam.

I too have noticed that if you are looking for something to buy it's harder. When there was spam in the normal channel the sales were broken up by the white text and easier to read. It's hard to see who's selling what now.

I agree with others that a good way to help with this would be to make the names a different colour to the sales text, that way it's easier to see who is the seller and what they are selling and where their ad finishes and another begins.

This is by no means supporting spamming it's a sensible suggestion to improve the readabilty of the trade channel.

Abarra · Jun 22, 2007, 02:01 AM // 02:01

I think some of you are missing the point, spammers are not asking for the right to spam.

I too have noticed that if you are looking for something to buy it's harder. When there was spam in the normal channel the sales were broken up by the white text and easier to read. It's hard to see who's selling what now.

I agree with others that a good way to help with this would be to make the names a different colour to the sales text, that way it's easier to see who is the seller and what they are selling and where their ad finishes and another begins.

This is by no means supporting spamming it's a sensible suggestion to improve the readabilty of the trade channel.

Clone · Jun 22, 2007, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Lack of in game auction system = Bad for sales.

Dione Davore · Jun 22, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

I couldn't sell my items as well.
I went crazy by trying to see the difference between the peoples messages.

By the way...
Kamadan eng1 is filled with traders. Traders do now want to conversate about things in most cases so if one seeks a place to conversate you'll def. not find people for it in Kamadan/Lions Arch and Kaineng dis1.
(I believe the Great Temple of Balthasar dis1 is always full with people who talk about most stupid things ^^ )

Elnai · Jun 22, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

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Originally Posted by Senatoru

FIRST : SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH.
.This night on Local Channel in Kamadan was 5 ppl who make joke about the sellers. .

I made jokes about the complainers and the people who now act as little mods. I got banned, gg.

Recon_Alpha · Jun 22, 2007, 03:27 AM // 03:27

If Anet can't add an auction house, how about a town/out post that is strictly for selling items (i.e. no exits). If they add an exit, just add a small area...like a room….so you can show weapons and such.

This way both all and trade chat can be used.

BTW...anyone thinking that the trade channel or party search is the all answer to trading in GW, you’re crazy. This is why I haven't sold anything in a couple of months. It's a bad system and it sucks having to enter your text, hit enter, wait a couple of seconds, up arrow hit enter. Rinse and repeat until you sell what you're trying to sell, if you can.

Miral · Jun 22, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46

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Originally Posted by Recon_Alpha

If Anet can't add an auction house, how about a town/out post that is strictly for selling items (i.e. no exits). If they add an exit, just add a small area...like a room….so you can show weapons and such.

This way both all and trade chat can be used.

BTW...anyone thinking that the trade channel or party search is the all answer to trading in GW, you’re crazy. This is why I haven't sold anything in a couple of months. It's a bad system and it sucks having to enter your text, hit enter, wait a couple of seconds, up arrow hit enter. Rinse and repeat until you sell what you're trying to sell, if you can.

how would a trading town be any different in regards of enter message, wait, up arrow, enter again?

Recon_Alpha · Jun 22, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

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Originally Posted by Miral

how would a trading town be any different in regards of enter message, wait, up arrow, enter again?

I was replying to two different things.

1. Perhaps a solutions to the trade chat problem. Instead of telling them to use the trade channel or ban them…tell them to go to xxx town to sell their items.

2. How bad the trade process is.

Both should be fixed. Of course, the ultimate solution would be an action house or something similar but we all know that will never happen with GW1. So, with out that what do we have? Read my original post then this post.

Eagle357 · Jun 22, 2007, 04:46 AM // 04:46

My idea to solve the trade problem.

I've heard that we can't have an auction house because of the way GW stores character data, no worries!

We already have the Party Search ability, for those that know how to use it, it's not that bad.

OK here goes.

1. Lets have a "Trade" Tab (under the party search window)
2. Increase the character limit of a line of text that can be typed
3. Let players list 3-5 items
4. Have a check box of Buy/Sell

Easy huh?

So ideally what'd you'd see is

Character name
Buying
x item, with y stats, willing to pay z amount of gold
Selling
Gold Axe with A mods, B requirement, C cost

Then just let people scroll up and down.

Sounds simple enough to implement.